Court convicts HM, Speaker of corruption; slaps them jail terms

In my observation lots of changes have come to Bhutan, after our forceful departure. Though, the punishment is not appropriate to the gravity of the crime. However, the precedence is established.
The people inside Bhutan are totally upset about the leniency shown while handing down the verdicts to the officials. Like everyone else, I also feel that the option of paying Nu.100 a day is so little in today’s context to the gravity of the crime they committed.

It should have been real jail terms to the duo. It makes little sense if they can pay cash to escape the prison term. Compare it with the tobacco case of Sonam – it makes the Bhutanese citizens utterly foolish.

Kudos to ACC and the Mongar District Court. Good precedence.

How on the earth this happens in the country of GNH ???????? Opps …… You right there mr. JYT. We are keen to know bit more about your mission.

I think the gravity of the crime is heavier and it is imbalance if you compaire with who took 10 packets of smoke to the capital.

It is totally bullshit. People who fight for democracy and freedom were sentenced for life time. Still we have some freedom fighter in Bhutan prison.

Sonam, who took 10 packs of Cigarette was sentenced for 10 years jail time. Where as, these kind of bulldogs(real criminal of our nation) who did a national level crime are given such a silly sentences. What the hell is wrong here ? Come on people!

Dear so called Tshering Norbu chhetri,
I support you regarding light punishment in gyalpozing land case culprits, but I am against comparing Nepali migrant people in southern Bhutan fighting for democracy and freedom inside Bhutan.
Firstly, the foreigners has no right to claim democracy and freedom in other countries any where in the world.
Secondly,No Government and genuine people in the world accept such activities inside their mother land.
Finally,killing of innocent people ,destroying of public services like schools/bridges/hospital in the name of democracy and freedom has no place in this modern world.

@ Lamcheney gurungji,
Don’t be obsessed with the hollow patriotic feeling, you might be washed away with the same cruel tides of over patriotic feelings that I possessed once.
Dude don’t try to be over smart and try to have everything for yourself . Don’t talk like you owned Bhutan more than any body else. By the way who told you about the nepali migrants, if you are real gurung , where is your origin?
All the ethnic groups in Bhutan are immigrants either from Tibet, Nepal or present day Myanmar. Don’t ever try to least tell the forcefully evicted people that they are foreigners. We have all the proofs to prove that we are genuine Bhutanese. But it was people like your type forced and coerced to leave the land and properties generated by my sheer hard work.
Although, I am happy with what I have after the resettlement, and fortunate that I am safe and sound even after the witch hunt spree rolled by the regime in 1990s.
YOU KNOW THE corruptions is most rampant amongst the top brass. If u try 4th king, you will find him the most corrupt person in Bhutan. It was he who engineered the 90s’ crisis with other bunch of people like Dago Tshering, Dawa Tshering and Jigme Y. Thinle amongst others.
To tell this long story short the corruptions brought all the disasters in Bhutan despite the sincere efforts of the southern Bhutanese.

Hi achamva,
Sorry I could not understand the true meaning of achamva but I take it as Achamva/surprise after going through your comments about Bhutan history,Bhutan’s rulers,leaders and of course southern violent demonstration by Nepali migrants supported by few Nepali people from across the border.
So, If you are a genuine Bhutanese please answer the following questions :-
1.Do you wanna to see our motherland like Sikkim ?Do
you like to sale our mother land to India like Sikkim ?
2.Do you like to see our innocent and poor people suffer-
like in Nepal for the past 15-20 years in the name of
Democracy and freedom led by cunning leaders for
vested interest.
3.It needs to be mentioned that, 90% of the people who left
Bhutan were innocent, but…forced to leave Bhutan by
group of Nepali criminals .Those who refused to join
their group were brutally killed/ kidnapped /tortured and
their properties robbed and destroyed.
4.The innocent villagers were given false promise of
coming back to Bhutan with more freedom and rights
and creation of greater Nepal bringing together state
of sikkim,Darjelling,Kalimpong,part of Bengal/assam
Doors and southern Bhutan.
5.Our National Dress and National were brunt down during violent demonastration in 1990. The basic facilities likeschool/hospital/bridges were destroyed in order to
create fear in the mind of innocent people.

Ram Bahadur Lamchanay Gurung, if you are real Ram Bahadur, I am sure you are bribed and corrupted by our Wangchucks.

And if its your fake name, here you go-

What do you mean by our national dress-

1)did we vote for this dress,

2)did we vote for Dzongkha ( Ngalopkha) to be our national language?

In-fact, these are all policies enforced by your Wangchuck here at Thimphu, it not people choice. It is a choice of Monarch and it belong to them not to me or our Sharshops.

Next, you are saying -“90% of the people who left
Bhutan were innocent.” So, what is the responsibility of our government? Are not they responsible for those people?
Do you ever imagine how we feel when our Buddhist were expelled from Tibet? Try to treat our people in camp and in Western world with same love and humor that you shows to Tibetan Refugee. Treat every human with same heart, do not be biased. Speak for their justice and their pain. Do not speak for money and power.

Other wise, you would be a burden for our nation to claim you as a pure Buddhist and justify you as a creature of GNH.

Kadinchey(However, I hate one sided monarch of Bhutan).

Achamva ji & T.N.Chhetri,

Finally, you two have accepted facts about the criminal activities committed by so called freedom fighter for democracy during 1990 and frequent kidnapping/looting of innocent villagers living along the assam border in Sarbang and Gaylaphu Bhutan at present days in some extent.
If people like you come forward at that time and support Govt. to protest the violent acts.. it could have saved people to leaving Bhutan.
As you know very well that, we had small number of armed force personnel at that time and it was impossible to deployed at every villages of Bhutan to provide security to the people. So I feel that, lack of co-operation from the Nepali people to the Government has created Bhutanese refugee.

By the way,I would like to ask few more questions :-

There are many caste/religions and creed in Bhutan with different culture and dress,but WHY only Nepali disrespected the ONE NATION ONE ,ONE PEOPLE policy of Government ? why refused to wear National dress,why brunt down our National Flag ?
Dear T.N. plez do reply my above question(you said vote for Dress and flag ?) Plez do not become joker in this forum.It will bring bad image to refugee .
And,,, dear T.N. plez keep in mind….the burning down of
National dress and National Flag is a heinous crime all over the world and you are liable for death punishment in other countries.. Say thanks to our ruler/Kings for deleting death punishment from Bhutan law.

Those people in South were more educated and politically aware about the injustice brought by “One nation one People”.

Our people didn’t disrespected because most are influenced by the catchy phrase -“Son of Palden Drukpa”. But today, most of our young and educated Sharchops are understanding the conspiracy behind- “One national one people”. It is only designed for monarch to stay in power.

Today, not only our Sharshopas, but Lhotshampas, Khengpa, Mangdeps, Kurteps, Bumtaps also hate to say national dress, national language, or bla-bla-bla, because it only represent the Kargyupa order. I hate too because our Nyingmapas aren’t represented here, so does Lhotshampas.

As you said our country have different race and ethnicity, but why our so called custom, tradition, values, dress code, and, language only represent Monarch and Kargyupa order.

I hate Bhutan’s monarch because of their conspiracy over reincarnation of new Shabdrung and their historical discrimination over our people.

Namneeng rumey!
lekpan yeep cho

Norbu

Hi T.N. and achamva,

You are proudly taking about democracy and freedom , so please do not forget that majority is the key success of Democracy and freedom and 98% of Bhutanese people are peacefully enjoying happy life under the existing system of governance and present leadership.
As old saying goes “every community has their own black sheep and there is no exception to you and Me.The parents are unable to keep happy all the children ,how the government can keep every citizen(7 lakhs population)
happy ?
Therefore, you need to sincerely accept that, the number of so called refugee is hardly 1-2% of the Bhutanese population.
For achamva:-
Your comment is totally out of context. Regarding,K5 not wearing National dress in japan. Plez note that he was in japan not in Bhutan. So you can wear even your dowra sural ,a Nepali National dress out side Bhutan.

Your second comment..Tibetan dress ? Our Nepali lady prefer to wear saree instead of real dress Gonue -choli/fafeia and male like to wear english suit and Daka topi. So whats wrong….if we the majority people accept and we wear it with dignity and respect.Moreover..plez note that, there is vast differences between design of Bhutanese Gho(male dress) and Tibetan dress including style of wearing.Please do not correct your mind.
So what is your comment about Kira(women dress) ?

Regarding complaint of norther Bhutanese ,wearing National dress in hot places of southern Bhutan as you have mentioned.You need to realize ,our forefather fought many wars with British India along the southern border wearing the National dress and proudly defended our mother land.We Bhutanese used to travel thousand miles through dense jungles and snow capped mountains carrying heavy load wearing the National dress. In the hot Arab countries, both male and female proudly wear their National dress covering head to toe.
So what is the problem, wearing our national dress ?

You have mentioned about the gyalpozing case and repeatedly trying to high light the name of Khena maya.There are more than dozen officials like Khena maya,so why necessary to mention the name of Khena only…So it shows your communal mind . Shame..shame..

For T.N.
Your comment about sherchokpa, Khengpa,mangde,
kurtepa does not bear any weight at this modern world. Your expression is against the democracy and freedom.
and I do believe that, your hate comment on particular religion and community will not accept by the international community at all and it shows your criminal mind to create violent activities in the peaceful society.If you are a true Bhutanese, you will not express such feelings in this international forum.I fear that, you must be either cross breed or makpa (son in law) of Nepali migrants.

Hey you agent of Wangchuck, your arguments seems so weak and invalid. If I voice over the injustice here in Bhutan, what is your evidence to consider me anti-national or cross breed.

People like you make our generation feel awkward and shy to speak the truth and reality of this country.

The policies implemented by agents of Wangchucks like you and the Monarch to discourage to speak the truth, to ask for freedom, and to make a unbiased judgment is ridiculous. It clearly reflect the irony of GNH.

In-fact, here are thousand of Bhutanese who totally disagree on the conspiracy implemented by our Monarch and its bureaucrats to kicked out our own people out from
Bhutan(ethnic cleansing).

Many educated and young Bhutanese don’t like many policies and rules enforced by Bhutanese Monarch, but the agents like you and Monarch tag them with anti national, terrorist, and anti-social.

So, our people are hiding the reality to make you crooks to feel happy. But sooner or later we the real Bhutanese will crackdown you and your faithful monarch.

FYI, I am a real Buddhist and follower of GNH who believes that truth need to be told, and humanity should be justified.

Last but not list- If you don’t know how to make a good argument, don’t make false and nonsense argument too.

Long live Bhutan!( (I hate Monarch)

Shreeman Tshering Norbu,

If you are really a freedom fighter, why you are hiding behind computer ? come open, express you feeling to the general public.
I realized that you are just barking like dog..A BARKING DOG SELDOM BITES” in Nepali VOOK..NAY KUKUR LAY….
TOK.DAI..NAA’
It is understood that.. …you don’t possess that democratic mind and character ..coz…..you don’t have ability to digest
any negative comments.I mean… whoever try to bring truth to the people,they are branded as.. Wangchuk’s agents by you and anti social elements.
You are trying to create……… communal and social conflict between……… sherchok,Nanglong,khengpa,Bumthab and Lotshamps………….. through your baseless and immature comments.
Plez, ……..wake up guy ! now we are in computer world,it is easy to reveal the facts within one second from any corner of the world.

Pathetic and fake (Ram Bahadur Lamchanay Gurung) your logic of arguments is completely immature.

In your most previous comments you stressed out our Southern and Eastern Bhutanese as anti-social, terrorist, or illegal immigrants. You also claimed that your Monarch is not responsible for initiating the conspiracy of ethnic cleansing.

Then in your following comments you switched your statements stating that many of those Bhutanese Refugee are innocent, and were the result of some vision-less leaders. You are also defending that “One Nation One People” policy as the tag of Democracy, but how on earth would it be justified unless people vote for it?

Now, you are being pathetic and defending your own argument with puzzled mind set. You should feel awkward and shameful to switch your arguments here and there.

In-fact, I am using proxy to write comments in this pages, so you(Agents of Wangchuck ) aren’t being able to track me down. At the end, you want me to come in public, so you could tagged me as a criminal, terrorist, or anti-monarch, and throw me behind the bar (As your Monarch did to our innocent Bhutanese from East and South before) to suppress the bitter truth and hidden story of my small and beautiful nation.

Long live Bhutan( Hate the Monarch).

Dear achamva,

So far, I was trying best to avoid bringing facts about poor condition of my present life and express frustrations against so called our leaders and chamchas.
I am a victim of 1990 problem, my brother is still missing he was abducted by group of armed militant lead by kazi.Our house was looted twice and father was badly beaten by the same group because we refused to join the villagers who were leaving Bhutan at the same time.
Finally, my old parents forced me for leaving bhutan with a hope to reunite our abducted brother.
We submitted application to Govt. and collected few thousand in cash and left Bhutan. Both the parents died before meeting their loving abducted son.Later learn t that , he was abducted and killed across the border for refusing to take up armed militant training by kazi group.
Now , cunning people like you already left for green pasture for luxury future and we poor people are suffering and becoming “dhobi ko kukur ghat ko naa ghar ko”
I hate bad comments against the Bhutan King in all respects. You can see large number of Lotsham people still enjoying happy life in Bhutan. There are Lotsham Ministers,Dashos,Doctor,engineers and moreover now it is learn that large number of lotsham has purchased land/building and running big business in capital Thimphu.
Where are our so called leaders who promised us to take back to Bhutan and provide better future with all the fundamental rights ?
They were and are busy in favoring their own relatives/friends through corrupt practice and now they establish link through such forum and raise refugee issue in time to time, in order to keep enjoying luxury life in the name of refugee and of course misuse refugee fund.
Plez, note that, I and my family is just an example of injustice brought by the so called freedom fighters and leaders and there are still large number of such unfortunate people(victims) living in the camp and adjoining Indian state of West Bengal and Assam.

Achamva….you have mentioned that all the Bhutanese are migrant people from other countries..yes I agree in some extent..but you should agree that ,other citizen of Bhutan never revolted against the ONE NATION,ONE PEOPLE POLICY and refused to wear National dress/bruntdown National flag like Nepali did in 1990 .
Regarding thousand miles fighting war, a silly question…I mean… to guard the bhutan boundary from east to west south to north, our forefather had traveled more than
miles and thousand times as there were no other mode of traveling/transport.
Plez, do some thing for the poor people who are suffering in Nepal refugee camp and brutality of Nepal police.Our childern are becoming drug addicts and criminal due to poor living condition .
Plez do some thing good for poor fellow citizen.

Dear RBLM,

Please please please don’t try to save the face of Bhutan’s Monarch with your sentiments. Who would speak for my brother who was killed by Royal Bhutan Army, two of my cousin who were raped and buried near the river bank of Sunkosh by RBA, who were gone to fetch water at near by spring. My Uncle is still behind the bar (jail) in Bhutan.

I have no right to judges those so called leaders because they were civilian like me whose influence is not as much as the then monarch(4th King). Who used his army to terrorize, killed, rape, and tortured our innocent villagers.

Why are we treated like an enemies? Just because we want the census to be fair, and just because we ask for equal rights and freedom as ruling ethnics. Or just because of the fair that the monarch would lose his power.

Yes! I know people were victimized from both the side, but is not the government responsible to address the demand of public voice? Why people from same house hold were categorized into 5 to 6 different categories during the census?

Why Nepali Schools were closed, why green belt is enforced only in Southern part of Bhutan? Why Southern Bhutanese were conspired and the heinous crime of ethnic cleansing was done in our Buddhist nation? Does Buddha teaching approves those cruelty of our Monarch ?

I am also a Buddhist, but I don’t want to surface the terror and trauma create by our Monarch and RBA.

Sincerely,
Nima Tamang (USA)

Hi achamva,

The people like your thoughts and knowledge should have there during 1990 problem.So we need not landed into Nepal camp as refugee and facing hardship for the last 20 years with a false hope & false promise made by cunning foxes.
We all must accept that, more than 50% population of refugee who left Bhutan were forced by armed militants and violent action against our wishes.Result is…large number of lotsham people who believe in non violence and do trust the King and supported the royal Government at the time of need are proudly living inside Bhutan and enjoying equal rights.
For your kind information I am not related to any Gurung elite family.More over,it is also learnt that Mr.Gurung who married to royal is no more in royal family and he left Bhutan and settled down in foreign country with English girl friend before 1990.
As old saying goes “naa. khow..va..nay din vari ko sikar,khow va..nay kancha babu ko anowar.”Now we became” khatta angur kown kha ay ga” I mean, just passing bad comments over good things against the King and Government.

I am not going to buy your sentiments and your weak logic which by any means tends to salute the ethnic cleanser-the 4th King and the monarchs in general.

Friend please be focused to the discussion-

1. Why aren’t these corrupted leaders here in Bhutan – who not only did this heinous crime , but also blow back to your mantra- “Gross National Happiness” given strict and justifiable sentences or charges?

2. JYT him self was involved in Large land scam, and he is the mastered in corruption, but why no single authority point a finger to him?

3. Which constitution and which article gives your uncle(Monarch) to enforced Kargyupa order to our Nyingmapa practic. (Did we Bhutanese make those constitution, or are enforced only by your monarch?).

4. You have been disqualifying our freedom fighter and democratic movement initiators in general with the act of some stupid so called leaders (in-fact, many Vigilante and spy of 4th king were the one to conspire the terror and violence during people’s movement).

Today, Syrian opposition coalition has been terrorizing and destroying nearly whole country but still the Western world has been backing them up. Did our freedom fighter made such huge destruction, did they launched any nuclear weapons and missiles? No they didn’t, and our monarch took the advantages over their peaceful protest by spying and conspiring some crooks to depopulate their mission.

5. Until the regime stays in power- the phrase “Best king, best leader, or great Hero” could be echoed from designated corner- and these are the fact- Bashar al-Assad, Muammar el-Qaddafi, Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev, King James II of England, VII of Scotland, II of Ireland, and many more were cited by their bureaucrats as the best king or ruler in their nation, unless revolution throws them away. So, you have every rights to escalate and propagate your uncle(monarch) being the best of the best, but we the people know the cruelty and inhumanity of your great monarch.

Unless equall freedom and justice are granted to our Nyingmapas, and unless the mess of ethnic cleansing is corrected, hate and disrespect towards the monarch would not be cleaned out, rather it would sky rocket.

Long live Bhutan, hate the 4th Monarch!

Dear Tshering Norbu chhetri,

Please note that, it took 6 years to draft the constitution of Bhutan with the help of constitutional experts from more than 100 countries.And same was discussed with the people of Bhutan through open public meeting in all the districts, besides public consultation with villagers through village heads and people’s representatives during the drafting period.
I do not know , how you dare to say bad about our constitution, which was appreciated by the international community and passed by our people’s representatives.
Regarding,King and our leader in power.. please remember that, the constitution has provided people’s rights to remove them through majority vote. But so far majority Bhutanese are happy with the King and present leadership.. therefore. single frog like you (minority) shouting from a dirty pound will not be able to bring the rainfall,I mean changes.
Respect the desire of majority of the people..coz, the 7lakh genuine Bhutanese are proudly enjoying all the rights and facilities in Bhutan.
Every community has their own black sheep and there is no exception to our community because of people like you.
You are trying to project yourself as freedom fighter.. shame ,, shame.. in fact freedom fighter never hide behind a computer ,freedom fighter never hate or divide people in the name of religion/caste and creed i.eNyngmapas and
kargyu etc.
Oh! do not forget that, when you point one finger to other side,the rest four fingers are always pointing towards you. so,
The 20 years have been passed living in Nepal as refugee, the poor are suffering and rich and cunning people are enjoying luxury life in the name of refugee.
The cunning and rich people left for better future and poor are still suffering in the camps.
So where is your democracy ? where is your freedom, where is your equal fundamental rights within the refugee community ? ? ?
The people who try to bring facts are branded as Govt.
agent etc. So I feel that, people like gaddafi, bashar
al-sadda are misleading the refugee community in the name of freedom and democracy.

My friend, every dictators and absolute regime have their messenger. It rationally applied here in Bhutan too.

In fact, from social to political structure, and from constitution to educational system every where is occupied by bureaucrats of Monarch. So, how in earth could be the voice of people represented in reality? From decision making to policy drafting and from nominating an experts to appointing a general, our monarch have direct or indirect influence. So, what is the credibility of our arguments to state that our policies were drafted by people?

To be honest, I am neither a freedom fighter nor a bureaucrats of monarch. I am an ordinary Bhutanese who believes that truth to be told and equality to be asked.

BTW- your statement -” So I feel that, people like gaddafi, bashar al-sadda are misleading the refugee community in the name of freedom and democracy” holds no drop of water. Gaddafi, Bashar al-Sadda are dictator like our monarch, they doesn’t represent the people.

And yes, as I always say- I love Bhutan and all my fellow Bhutanese, but I hate the monarch and its black social network.

You alleged me as a Bhutanese to divide our people, but your argument is nothing other than to shade the our discussion over the ill treatment to our Nyingmapas and followers of Mahayana Buddhism.

I would challenge people like you who still devoted over generational power to bring the light to the discussion of our
10th Shabdrung Rimpoche, Could you?